Host Carol Castiel and Ian Kelly talk with former senior Homeland Security official Elizabeth Neumann, who resigned her post in April 2020 because she could no longer tolerate then-President Donald Trump’s refusal to recognize the growing and real threat posed by domestic terrorism. She tells VOA that she is dismayed with the Republican Party’s current embrace of the former president’s false assertion that the 2020 election was stolen, which led to the disastrous January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol by radical Trump supporters.